Re: English gym

Da **Cosworth117** Mar 4 Mar 2014 - 12:56

Thanks.

At least: http://www.wordreference.com/iten/almeno%20quanto

I wanted to write "Penso che la pratica sia importante almeno quanto la teoria".

Da Rasputin Mar 4 Mar 2014 - 13:07

Cosworth117 ha scritto:Thanks.

At least: http://www.wordreference.com/iten/almeno%20quanto

I wanted to write "Penso che la pratica sia importante almeno quanto la teoria".

Ok "I think practice is at least as important as theory"

Da **Cosworth117** Mar 4 Mar 2014 - 13:16

Ok

Da Holubice Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 14:23

When I was a teenager, I met a girlfriend on holiday, very tall, very nice, from Finland.

I kept in touch with her, sending several letters, and She came on holidays here for 4 years. She was very tall, very nice, I made that homework with pleasure...

When I finished High School, She invited me at her country/forest house. When there, I have been very surprised to hear a perfect English from any person I spoke to. The policeman, the greengrocer, the petrol pump attendant, anybody spoke a fluent English and a perfect accent.

At first, I thought that country had a great school system, so good to get a such foreign language skill.

That girl, at gymnasium, was studying also French, I was studying French too, so I said her she could write or talk to me in that language, as it was easier for me. But she was pretty bad in it. Honestly a bonehead. She was 18 at that time, she had a little brother, about 10 years old, and also that little boy was speaking English as Her Majesty the Queen.

I was not admired or surprised. I was angry. "No, this brat can't be a teacher too..!"

Some days later, we were watching TV in her living room, this soap opera:

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English gym - Pagina 5 Beautiful_cast_89

...and I noted that they broadcasting the soap opera in English, with Finnish subtitle. I asked why, and she said that since a long time any TV network, cinemas, is forced to offer foreign movies in original language. Exactly since (about) 1950 Sweden and Finland forced (by low) to act this way. Then I realized their secret.

And their wisdom.

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Da Holubice Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 14:31

By the way...

When back from my 1 month holiday in Finland (she was very tall, and very pretty...) I bought this radio:

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English gym - Pagina 5 $(KGrHqZ,!qwE+nQgU1QDBQBGJWrSK!~~60_35

GRUNDING OCEAN BOY

... as Grunding was the only manufacturer to sell normal (and cheap) radio with short waves receivers, I mean the frequency by which the London Radio used to broadcast war bulletin during II° world war to the occupied nations.

And I kept the tradition, hearing daily news, documentaries, from there, thanks to my little investment.

Da Holubice Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 14:38

Now BBC London isn't offering its short waves service anymore.

But I've installed this application on my phone:

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English gym - Pagina 5 Tunein-radio-pro-android

TuneIn

... and I can keep listening my loved programs from England.

God save the Queen, and the English tax payers that economically support their excellent public broadcasting.

For their, and mine pleasure.

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Da Rasputin Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 18:12

Ok got a job for you Cos: read check and find out the mistakes - if any - in what Holu wrote wink..

Da **Cosworth117** Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 18:26

I haven't found any mistake. But He wrote twice that girl was very tall and very nice. I had already understood it in the first line. mgreen

It's not a mistake, but it's a repetition.

Da Rasputin Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 18:35

Cosworth117 ha scritto:I haven't found any mistake. But He wrote twice that girl was very tall and very nice. I had already understood it in the first line. It's not a mistake, but it's a repetition.

I'll check it out as soon as I have some time, right now I'm about to cook dinner occhiali

Da Rasputin Sab 8 Mar 2014 - 20:14

Cosworth117 ha scritto:I haven't found any mistake. But He wrote twice that girl was very tall and very nice. I had already understood it in the first line. It's not a mistake, but it's a repetition.

Checked. First I thought is was some kind of copy & paste, but Holu's english seems to be pretty good except for a couple of details.

Find out wink..

Da Holubice Dom 16 Mar 2014 - 8:25

Rasputin ha scritto:Checked. First I thought is was some kind of copy & paste, but Holu's english seems to be pretty good except for a couple of details.

Find out

Where are they...?

Anybody is so impressed for my fluent english...

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Da Holubice Dom 16 Mar 2014 - 19:19

Recently I met a German Family. The husband is a technician who has spent is life working in several countries (India, China, Poland, ...). In each country he worked thanks to his English language. Nevertheless, he doesn't speak in a good accent, he has a broke control of the language. I suppose he always had to deal with staff not mother tongue, probably his teacher were not so great.

I noted that situation on every German man, or from Austria, or any kind of country that have not forced English broadcasting on their TV networks. They, of course, speak 10.000 times better then an average Italian high school graduated, but not in a such a good way as Scandinavian countries do.

Where I live, we can watch at Croatian television:

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... I've seen now they also are broadcasting American films in English. I'm pretty sure that I will find out many metalworkers able to explain how and where to change my Euro.

Or, probably, my Liras in their Euro...

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Da adif Ven 18 Set 2015 - 0:02

holubice ha scritto:When I was a teenager, I met a girl~~friend~~ on holiday, very tall, very nice, [she's] from Finland.

I kept in touch with her, sending several letters, and ~~She~~ [she] came [here] on holidays ~~here~~ for 4 years. She was very tall, very nice, I made that homework with pleasure...

When I finished High School, ~~She~~ [she] invited me at her country/forest ~~house~~ [home]. When [I was] there, I have been very surprised to hear a perfect English ~~from~~ [by] any person I spoke to. The policeman, the greengrocer, the petrol pump attendant, anybody spoke[s] a fluent English ~~and~~ a [with] perfect accent.

~~presunti errori~~
[aggiunte/correzioni mie]

ras se hai voglia mi controlli questo?
so poco inglese e probabilmente ho fatto più errori di holu, il quale almeno riesce a costruire frasi decentemente

thanks

Da Rasputin Ven 18 Set 2015 - 0:14

adif ha scritto:
holubice ha scritto:When I was a teenager, I met a girl~~friend~~ on holiday, very tall, very nice, [she's] from Finland.

I kept in touch with her, sending several letters, and ~~She~~ [she] came [here] on holidays ~~here~~ for 4 years. She was very tall, very nice, I made that homework with pleasure...

When I finished High School, ~~She~~ [she] invited me at her country/forest ~~house~~ [home]. When [I was] there, I have been very surprised to hear a perfect English ~~from~~ [by] any person I spoke to. The policeman, the greengrocer, the petrol pump attendant, anybody spoke[s] a fluent English ~~and~~ a [with] perfect accent.
~~presunti errori~~
[aggiunte/correzioni mie]

ras se hai voglia mi controlli questo?
so poco inglese e probabilmente ho fatto più errori di holu, il quale almeno riesce a costruire frasi decentemente

thanks

Uhm...quello che hai corertto mi pare ok, poi per i dettagli a quest'ora non sono proprio in forma, magari mi ricordi domani e ci guardo con occhio pignolo se vuoi wink..

Da adif Ven 18 Set 2015 - 0:23

ok grazie
mi basta già questo
wink..

Da Rasputin Ven 18 Set 2015 - 0:29

adif ha scritto:ok grazie
mi basta già questo

Nono, domani ricordami che magari riarticolo tutto in native speaker's mode wink..

Da adif Ven 18 Set 2015 - 0:48

ok ok
thanks one more once (o preferisci gli etti?)

Da Rasputin Ven 18 Set 2015 - 1:43

adif ha scritto:ok ok
thanks one more once (o preferisci gli etti?)

Once more si dice dioboia wink..

Da adif Ven 18 Set 2015 - 4:40

Rasputin ha scritto:
adif ha scritto:ok ok
thanks one more once (o preferisci gli etti?)

Once more si dice dioboia

ah ok
e one more once quando va usato?

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Da Justine Ven 18 Set 2015 - 6:36

adif ha scritto:
holubice ha scritto:When I was a teenager, I met a girl~~friend~~ on holiday, very tall, very nice, [she's] from Finland.

I kept in touch with her, sending several letters, and ~~She~~ [she] came [here] on holidays ~~here~~ for 4 years. She was very tall, very nice, I made that homework with pleasure...

When I finished High School, ~~She~~ [she] invited me at her country/forest ~~house~~ [home]. When [I was] there, I have been very surprised to hear a perfect English ~~from~~ [by] any person I spoke to. The policeman, the greengrocer, the petrol pump attendant, anybody spoke[s] a fluent English ~~and~~ a [with] perfect accent.

A me quegli "homework", dal punto di vista formale, suscitano un po' di double entendre, ma conoscendo Hol...

"forest house?" C'è Hanks da quelle parti?

Da Rasputin Ven 18 Set 2015 - 10:58

adif ha scritto:
ah ok
e one more once quando va usato?

Uhm...che io sappia, mai boh

Da Rasputin Ven 18 Set 2015 - 11:15

adif ha scritto:
holubice ha scritto:When I was a teenager, I met a girl~~friend~~ on holiday, very tall, very nice, [she's] from Finland.

I kept in touch with her, sending several letters, and ~~She~~ [she] came [here] on holidays ~~here~~ for 4 years. She was very tall, very nice, I made that homework with pleasure...

When I finished High School, ~~She~~ [she] invited me at her country/forest ~~house~~ [home]. When [I was] there, I have been very surprised to hear a perfect English ~~from~~ [by] any person I spoke to. The policeman, the greengrocer, the petrol pump attendant, anybody spoke[s] a fluent English ~~and~~ a [with] perfect accent.
~~presunti errori~~
[aggiunte/correzioni mie]

ras se hai voglia mi controlli questo?
so poco inglese e probabilmente ho fatto più errori di holu, il quale almeno riesce a costruire frasi decentemente

thanks

Allora, provo a riscriverlo senza annotare quasi nulla, cosí come lo scriverei io:

When I was a teenager, I met a nice, tall Finnish girl on a holiday.

I kept in touch with her, we exchanged several letters and she spent her holidays here for 4 years. (Ripetizione) How nice was she! I gladly did that homework.

As I finished High School, she invited me to her farm; while I was there, I was very surprised to hear perfectly spoken English by everyone I talked to. The police officer, the greengrocer, the man at the gas station, they all spoke fluent and accentless English.

Occhio, io tendo all'inglese USA(Gas station, police officer, etc)

Da adif Ven 18 Set 2015 - 15:10

grazie ras

Da Rasputin Ven 18 Set 2015 - 18:31

adif ha scritto:grazie ras

Di nulla. Ma cos'era, un esercizio?

Da Justine Ven 18 Set 2015 - 18:53

Facciamo i compiti anche qui?

Da adif Sab 19 Set 2015 - 5:49

Rasputin ha scritto:
adif ha scritto:grazie ras

Di nulla. Ma cos'era, un esercizio?

sì lo era
ma siccome non vorrei approfittare troppo di te, hai un sito da consigliare per migliorare l'inglese scritto?

Da Rasputin Sab 19 Set 2015 - 10:56

adif ha scritto:
Rasputin ha scritto:
adif ha scritto:grazie ras

Di nulla. Ma cos'era, un esercizio?
sì lo era
ma siccome non vorrei approfittare troppo di te, hai un sito da consigliare per migliorare l'inglese scritto?

Sisi

http://atei.forumitalian.com/f16-babylon

mgreen

Da adif Sab 19 Set 2015 - 13:45

XD
ah ah
beh, grazie per la disponibilità allora...

Da Rasputin Sab 19 Set 2015 - 14:46

adif ha scritto:XD
ah ah
beh, grazie per la disponibilità allora...

Era un mezzo scherzo, la sezione però è stata creata anche per questo, ad esercitarsi qui ne sono già venuti un paio...non ti so indicare un sito specifico, ma ti posso dare un suggerimento: abituati ad usare google in inglese, cerca di fare anche le ricerche in quella lingua e leggiti i risultati sempre in inglese.

Un altro buon sistema è Wikipedia, puoi fare delle ricerche anche in italiano magari su argomenti che conosci bene e poi all'interno di Wiki cambiare la lingua.

È un sistema particolarmente interessante perché cambiando lingua non trovi traduzioni ma articoli scritti direttamente nelle rispettive lingue, quindi puoi vedere anche differenze ecc

Per quello che non capisci ci sono buoni dizionari online o noi qui

Da Justine Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 6:49

Vogliamo parlare della gente (e incredibile a dirsi, perlopiù madrelingua inglese) che confonde "its" con "it's"?
Ad ogni lettura è una bestemmia, non si può credere che esista una tale stupidità

Da Rasputin Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 11:15

Justine ha scritto:Vogliamo parlare della gente (e incredibile a dirsi, perlopiù madrelingua inglese) che confonde "its" con "it's"?
Ad ogni lettura è una bestemmia, non si può credere che esista una tale stupidità

Yeah, many of my friend's also ahahahahahah

non si tratta di confusione tra "its" con "it's", ma di una più generalizzata confusione tra genitivo e plurale.

Stai comunque serena che c'è di peggio, gli inglesismi che si diffondono al punto da venire accettati nell'uso comune. Ti faccio due esempi, riscontrabili nientepopodimeno che qui nella krante cermania: il primo è il vocabolo col quale chiamano colloquialmente il cellulare, "Handy" (In inglese, "Pratico", "Conveniente").

Si può (Anche se io so che associano la parola con qualcosa di portatile, appunto in mano) con un ragionamento contorto ipotizzare che il termine abbia origine appunto dalla praticità dell'oggetto, ma io so che non è cosí...

Il secondo, tienti forte: partita da McDonald, si è qui diffuso un po' ovunque il costume - in bar, chioschetti ed esercizi simili - di offrire caffè da asporto, annunciadolo pomposamente fuori dalla porta del locale con cartelli recanti la scritta in "Inglese" (Dirai, coffee to take away)....nonono....rullo di tamburi:

"Coffee to go" (Caffè quasi pronto?) wall2

Da Justine Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 11:18

"15 laps to go!" :D :D

beh, magari per sdrammatizzare la si può intendere come un rush adrenalinico di caffeina che ti aiuta ad arrivare al traguardo... (non so in quali condizioni, ma lo sforzo si apprezza) :D

Da Rasputin Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 11:42

Justine ha scritto:"15 laps to go!" :D :D

beh, magari per sdrammatizzare la si può intendere come un rush adrenalinico di caffeina che ti aiuta ad arrivare al traguardo... (non so in quali condizioni, ma lo sforzo si apprezza) :D

Tu immaginati di non poter fare 100m per la città senza vedere uno di quei cartelli, e vedi che ti passa la voglia di fare dello spirito moon

Da Justine Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 11:50

Con dei buoni smartglass potremo censurare certe cazzate, viva l'augmented reality!

Da Rasputin Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 12:31

Justine ha scritto:Con dei buoni smartglass potremo censurare certe cazzate, viva l'augmented reality!

Pensi che quello sia toccare il fondo? Nono, a quanto so gli spagnoli rimangono imbattuti. Già da prima dei tempi in cui ci vivevo, là è universalmente accettato il termine "Football" per indicare lo sport del pallone (Calcio in italiano, balonpié in castigliano e soccer - NON football - in inglese).

Ora, fin qui nulla di eccessivamente scandaloso, non fosse che - altresí universalmente accettato nonché ufficiaizzato - i titoli delle emittenti televisive lo annunciano scritto cosí:

non scherzo

Da primaverino Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 13:44

Rasputin ha scritto:
Justine ha scritto:Con dei buoni smartglass potremo censurare certe cazzate, viva l'augmented reality!

Pensi che quello sia toccare il fondo? Nono, a quanto so gli spagnoli rimangono imbattuti. Già da prima dei tempi in cui ci vivevo, là è universalmente accettato il termine "Football" per indicare lo sport del pallone (Calcio in italiano, balonpié in castigliano e soccer - NON football - in inglese).

non scherzo

Ehm... No, Rasp...
Gli inglesi il calcio lo chiamano effettivamente football... Soccer è la versione in inglese americano (dato che per loro il F. è quello americano).

Da Rasputin Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 14:11

primaverino ha scritto:
Rasputin ha scritto:
Justine ha scritto:Con dei buoni smartglass potremo censurare certe cazzate, viva l'augmented reality!

Pensi che quello sia toccare il fondo? Nono, a quanto so gli spagnoli rimangono imbattuti. Già da prima dei tempi in cui ci vivevo, là è universalmente accettato il termine "Football" per indicare lo sport del pallone (Calcio in italiano, balonpié in castigliano e soccer - NON football - in inglese).

non scherzo

Ehm... No, Rasp...
Gli inglesi il calcio lo chiamano effettivamente football... Soccer è la versione in inglese americano (dato che per loro il F. è quello americano).

Sí, conosco anch'io la specificazione, ma abituato a lavorare in inglese tecnico do per buona la versione internazionale (International English wink..

) e non quella quasi esclusivamente britannica

Da primaverino Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 14:49

Non voglio fare il puntiglioso, ma guarda che football è tale in quasi tutto il mondo, comprese le versioni adattate alle varie lingue (fùtbol tra gli ispanici [tutti] futebol in Portogallo e Brasile, fodbold in Danimarca, Fodball in Norvegia Fussball lì da voi etc.) mentre soccer è proprio di Usa, Canada, Australia e N. Zelanda.

Da Holubice Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 15:19

adif ha scritto:
Rasputin ha scritto:
adif ha scritto:grazie ras

Di nulla. Ma cos'era, un esercizio?
sì lo era
ma siccome non vorrei approfittare troppo di te, hai un sito da consigliare per migliorare l'inglese scritto?

My dear Adif,
do you know in UK when a man speaks a perfect accent they say he talks a 'BBC' accent?

I suggest you to have a look at these web sites:

BBC Learning English

BBC 6 minute English

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It's a fantastic way to improve your english, to be up to date, to inform you and to realise way BBC wins almost every year awards as the best public broadcaster worldwide.

I would like the Italian Prime Minister will bill me in my electric invoice some money, and that money will be credited in they bank account, instead RAI 'conto corrente' ...

boxed

Da Ospite Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 17:29

holubice ha scritto:do you know in UK when a man speaks a perfect accent they say he talks a 'BBC' accent?

A very good advice for everybody holub, thanks

Personally though I prefer debates and comedy to news... I particularly loved Dawkins' videos and Carlin's shows; Dawkins is way easier to understand (he's a teacher, after all), but Carlin is way funnier. carneval

Dunham too is in my opinion worthy of mention, even though he's not as easy as Dawkins nor as funny as Carlin... still worth listening to, though. wink..

Da Rasputin Mar 6 Ott 2015 - 19:28

primaverino ha scritto:Non voglio fare il puntiglioso, ma guarda che football è tale in quasi tutto il mondo, comprese le versioni adattate alle varie lingue (fùtbol tra gli ispanici [tutti] futebol in Portogallo e Brasile, fodbold in Danimarca, Fodball in Norvegia Fussball lì da voi etc.) mentre soccer è proprio di Usa, Canada, Australia e N. Zelanda.

Certo, ma non c'entra niente con quello che dicevo boh

Da Holubice Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 14:19

Odis89 ha scritto:A very good advice for everybody holub, thanks
Personally though I prefer debates and comedy to news... I particularly loved Dawkins' videos and Carlin's shows; Dawkins is way easier to understand (he's a teacher, after all), but Carlin is way funnier.
Dunham too is in my opinion worthy of mention, even though he's not as easy as Dawkins nor as funny as Carlin... still worth listening to, though.

BBC has much more to offer than just news.

BBC Podcasting

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Their pod-casting web site is a real mine, with hundreds of documentaries about science, history, math, economy, political. Any king of interest you have, I'm pretty sure you will satisfy with them.

The best is the ...

Heart and Soul

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... program ...

mgreen

Da Holubice Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 14:25

My favourite is the documentaries pod-cast.

BBC Documentaries

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Usually I download about 700 mega of files at once, then I record them in a CD-ROM Rewritable, and I listen at them on my way to work and back in my car. Of course you can also copy them in you mobile phone, avoiding to spend all your internet traffic for this issue.

What make the difference, and what cover the gap is a daily small exercises.

Da Rasputin Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 15:35

Jesus Holu...interesting information, but it seems you'll have to work a bit on your grammars...from the "king of interest" to the tangle between listening "at" (to!) and record "in" (on!)...

Da SergioAD Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 16:05

Hello Holubice,

I came to say hello and also something about English pronunciation.

Some time ago the speakers of BBC were obliged to use the so called "Received Pronunciation", hardly used by anybody except foreign students. I have been one in Sudan and therefore that is how I speak.

However, I did try lose it a bit when I left Africa, though still I think that it is the most understandable pronunciation. Look at the following video, ah ah I don't have that queerish accent by the way - I suppose.

Goodbye for now.

Da Justine Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 16:22

holubice ha scritto:Their pod-casting web site is a real mine, with hundreds of documentaries about science, history, math, economy, political. Any king of interest you have, I'm pretty sure you will satisfy with them.

The best is the ...

Heart and Soul

... program ...

Holy bat syllables, same sh&%, different toilet! -_- Unluckily, it looks like a coal mine of deranged & perilous thoughts which will just make you doubt about our faith in Pastafarianism.
Why didn't they mention something about the sacred noodly appendages, which I keep in high regard, that make the world go round?
People are too light-hearted, nowadays! Time for a change

Da Rasputin Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 16:26

Justine ha scritto:
Holy bat syllables, same sh&%, different toilet! -_- Unluckily, it looks like a coal mine of deranged & perilous thoughts which will just make you doubt about our faith in Pastafarianism.
Why didn't they mention something about the sacred noodly appendages, which I keep in high regard, that make the world go round?
People are too light-hearted, nowadays! Time for a change

Yeah! And by the way, who's that schmuck in the clip that seems compelled to move his lips while talkin' in such a way he looks like a chewing goat

Da primaverino Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 16:52

Do you think that i can learn the english language following this thread? (Kill me...)

Da Justine Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 17:00

Spoiler:

Da primaverino Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 17:33

Justine ha scritto:
Spoiler:

Thank you so much, sis...
Would you like to be my teacher?

Oh Rasp... You too, of course...

Da Ospite Mer 7 Ott 2015 - 18:39

Justine ha scritto:
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

primaverino ha scritto:Do you think that i can learn the english language following this thread? (Kill me...)

Any kind of practice can make your English better.

(Depending on your current skill level, of course... the extremes of the skill spectrum are harder to improve, as far as I know).

Da Justine Gio 8 Ott 2015 - 12:14

primaverino ha scritto:
Justine ha scritto:
Spoiler:

Thank you so much, sis...
Would you like to be my teacher?

Oh Rasp... You too, of course...

Let's do some homework together first, where should we start?

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